Post Schlock, Ergo I Post Drop

2026-03-18

Contents
  • I’m Sorry
  • Time Isn’t Holding Up
  • The Obvious Error
  • Statistics and Subtlety
  • It’s Worse Than All That
  • So Now What?
  • Footnotes

I’m Sorry

The more unfortunate among us will recognize the title as an extremely bad pun, requiring knowledge of the latinx logical fallacy post hoc ergo propter hoc, or, “after the thing, therefore because of the thing”.

In non-old-timey-Catholic-terms, this is the error that arises in assuming that something (Q)(Q)(Q) happening after something else (P)(P)(P) implies that PPP was the cause of QQQ.

There are a number of ways in which this can manifest, some more obvious than others.

Time Isn’t Holding Up

The Obvious Error

A clear example, understandable even by a child or (equivalently) a YIMBY-brained adult, is something like: today it rained, and yesterday I decided to buy particularly fancy dog treats. It would, I think, be a bit silly to claim that a my decision to buy Doggue Premium Liver Bites or whatever somehow caused it to rain, because, well, why in the world would that happen?

What this example gets that is that it’s unreasonable to ascribe causal influence (whatever we mean by that) to something simply because it happened before some other thing — after all, everything that has happened happened before everything happening presently. It’s certainly not the case that there’s generally a useful sense in which everything causes everything, at least, not in any of the normal deductive frameworks that people tend to operate in.

Really, what we tend to require is that belief in PPP being a “cause” of QQQ, comes with a plausible mechanism by which that could happen. That mechanism could, say, involve a sequence of smaller, less controversial steps that take us from PPP to QQQ.

Statistics and Subtlety

This fallacy manifests itself more subtly when engaging in statistical analysis, where it can appear as one of the reasons that “correlation is not causation”.

It’s Worse Than All That

Especially when seeing evidence that supports an agreeable conclusion, it is always tempting to say “well, sure, correlation isn’t causation, but certainly if I see a correlation that provides some evidence that there is a causal relationship”.

Unfortunately, the world of statistics has not conspired to make this so. A correlation between PPP and QQQ (some dependent variable PPP and an outcome QQQ) can arise from any of:

  • PPP causing QQQ
  • PPP preventing QQQ
  • PPP and QQQ having a common cause
  • QQQ causing PPP
  • PPP being completely unrelated to QQQ

That is: PPP and QQQ being correlated provides no evidence of anything by itself - the result is compatible with any possible relationship between PPP and QQQ, including that they are just totally unrelated to one-another.

PPP and QQQ unrelated

This is an example of “sometimes things just happen at the same time, okay”. You are probably already aware of some of the funnier versions of these, billed as “spurious correlations”.

Here’s a fun example, wherein “Stevie name popularity” is almost perfectly correlated with “Netflix stock price.”

Dual-axis line chart showing the number of US babies named Stevie and Netflix's opening stock price both trending upward from 2003 to 2022, with a near-perfect correlation (r=0.996)
Sure, man. Buy Steve, Sell High.

Now, maybe I’m dense, but it seems to me that there’s not any clear, meaningful way in which these two things are related (even with some sort of underlying common variable influencing both of them), they just are increasing coincidentally in the same way.

This is the sort of thing that can “just happen” - especially when there are a lot of variables that you could choose from. Much like someone searching for codes in The Bible, if you stare long enough at enough different things, you can almost guarantee that you will find a pattern that doesn’t really mean anything.

PPP prevents QQQ from happening

A historical example of this is related to the use of β\betaβ-blockers1 in patients with heart failure. These are a class of drugs that slow the heart, and one might think that slowing the heart is a bad thing for people whose heart is failing. Naively, this gives a plausible reason why basic outcome statistics reflected that β\betaβ-blockers were associated with worse outcomes for patients.

However, when random studies were ran in the 90s, it was discovered that β\betaβ-blockers actually reduce mortality in patients with heart failure substantially! The reason, ultimately, was that there was a confounding factor: doctors without an experimental protocol tended to give β\betaβ-blockers to patients with more severe health problems - they were more likely to die anyways.

The takeaway here is that PPP could actually actively do the opposite of what summary statistics indicate. This error2 likely caused a great number of preventable deaths in the 20th century.

PPP causing QQQ

If things are related in a straightforward causal way, then absent other things going on there should be a correlational relationship between them. Indeed, this is what would be used in an appropriately-designed random experiment to prove causality.

QQQ causing PPP

Causality has a direction, while correlational information does not. Yes, a given individual event cannot influence the past, but given that some PPPs and QQQs are spread throughout time, there is an opportunity for a general statement about them to have “reverse causality”.

PPP and QQQ have a common cause

So Now What?

Just because the tempting superficial analysis of “line goes up” can lead us astray, that does not mean that all is lost. This is not a call for epistemic nihilism, anti-intellectualism, or “rejection of data”, but rather a call to do science properly.

Footnotes

  1. See the AHA for an interesting interview with a cardiologist who pushed for the use of β\betaβ-blockers. ↩

  2. This is an example of Simpson’s Paradox. D’oh. ↩